User talk:Saspoon

TA
(board 에 죽일때 데미지 -> 본래 dmg나옴)

Psi blade (pure) : target대상에 입힌 데미지 그대로 뒤의 적들에게 데미지 (뒤의적들의 armor는 무관 ∵pure dmg) Refraction쓰면 기본 + raw dmg 이므로 Psi blade에도 적용됨 Deny시 Refraction charge 감소 X => Refraction + deny -> Psi blade 계속사용

죽일때 본래dmg대로 spill dmg들어감

Q TA Q 보이는것

meepo
A meepo  R  -> agha  -> tarrasque flat HP 사용X

A Quelling blade X A Zeus 궁 clone들 안맞음

다이어타이드
방깍 (쉐핀6, 알케미6, 벤지6, 슬라다20, th5, ta8, elder100%, weaver14, bb8, dazzle R, 방깍템 (ac5, medallion6, 데졸7

데미지 증폭 (udying[a], 첸[pysi], 데몬[pure], 증폭템 (orchid,

마방 (pugna, elder, aa, skyrath, 마방템 (e blade, veil

공속/딜 (트롤, 퍼지, 허스카(esp R),

q
Q stun type

Q Primal roar    side damage/bkb

Q Timbersaw W+Q Q데미지 범위

Q Axe Q  VS   ursa W

Q 스나 R  VS   tp Q 불꽃 R중복

Q1 diffusal feedback   blocked by magic immunity?

Q reactive armor VS Skill dmg

Q 가면Q/R, 엠버W buff place말고 maelstrom 번개도?

Q mana leak : 300 distance in less than 0.1 second Rupture : 1300 distance in 0.25 seconds

Q sk R slow 범위/debuff on hero?

Q same as taken  amli랑   지정 amli랑 *stack?

Q 안보여도 공격 Leshrac W, static field 보이는것만 공격 flack cannon

Q abaddon 궁에  magic ampli+  400이하로 떨어짐?

Q aa R 상대가보고 피할수있는?

Q lich R VS  invulnerability

Q Dispersion * Reflected damage does not disable items like Blink Dagger.

Q Chakra magic bkbblock ?

Q Healing 끊기는 조건

salve : 20 before reductions, self-damage dispells it,   (HP removal)        Q self-damage clarity self-damage dispells it                         (HP removal X)       Q self-damage

bottle : 20 and above (before reduction),                (HP removal)        Q self-damage urn : other than creep damage, self-damage에 취소,       (HP removal) tranquil : any auto-attack, skill-damage doesnt break, tarrasque : from enemy hero or Roshan 4/6(밀리/레인지),  from player-controlled units (other than hero itself) 3 Blink dagger : player-based units 3, self-damage also disable,    (HP removal X)

Refraction : 5 damage (after all reductions) REcall : player-based damage

Q pipe pipe pipe Chakram pure dmg 못방어?

Q 백도어방지범위

Q Mirana Leap   vs   Storm W

Q desolator corruption 되고 magic immunity되면 dispell?

Q 6/30 26 36 39 43

invi4종 shad blade -> (2-2) vendetta -> (3) shad walk -> (3) meld -> (3)


 * shad blade + (vendetta + shad walk) 안됨  => 기술 우선

Dmg Bonus Crit(+raw) Cleave(+raw, 근접) +Lifesteal

서폿 : BS Q/E, SK 흡혈오라, mag W, venge E, 데미지 up : feral impulse, Precision Aura, Vengeance aura, luna blessing, Packleader's Aura, 방어감소 : Presence of dark lord, Slardar R, 마나 : cm aura, 빛수, cm -> brew, pl,

Q 컨카 R rum효과

A Medalion Critical or  (early-game) physical skill (ta, tusk, bh, riki,

Q 초반 anti-shield aa (anti-shield, anti-초반 근접 힘민캐 anti-체젠   {혈귀, dk, axe, alchemi, abaddon aa

Q Summons warlock golem can be hexed  X stuned

Q tidehunter W rupter dispel??

Q Windrunner R damage reduction Tidehunter E Damage Reduction: 40% split shot Damage reduction Tiny R (+agha) building 75% + dmg

Q tiny로 건물추뎀 % 범위 tower/building dmg들어가는 차이?

Q Tusk Frozen Sigil   building?

Q Tusk R, lifesteal

A 닉스 carapace Sile E에 안통함 (먼저 magic immune에도 안통함

Q mjolnir

Q Burrow strike (invulnerability) ->DS wall of replica 복제안됨? ->Kinetic field 통과 ->Pounce 통과?

Q Illusions char. self (pl, spectre, naga, Ck, Manta users

enemy (morphling, SD, DS,

Q Skadi+illusion(manda..)?

Q Axe Q tower?

Q 고셉에 허스카 불창

Q Mirana E 스나궁 피해짐

Q jugg Q + invi?

Q Kunkka R to ally HP removal

Q Nyx Q Unit Target도 됨?

Q botts Regen Rune 도 damage 20 cut 인듯

Q illusions passives -> Illusions

Q summons referring spell immunity

Brewmaster R -> Resistant skin Plague ward -> Spell immunity Creeps -> Spell immunity

Q Stongaze쓰다 스턴먹으면 멈춤 -> 다른 long-casted spell? Epicenter -> 죽어도 지속

Q Zeus R invi에 데미지

Q Axe Q orb

Q 고대크립/로샨   Arcane orb 사용

Q viper strike This skill does allow for heroes to be denied. ?

Q dust 먹고 크립도 보이남 -> 중립크립도 보이는듯?

Q lifesteal siege unit한테됨/ tower는 안되는듯?

Q Corrosive skin and bottle

Bugs? Q pudge hook 반드시 장소에 도착 도중에 위치 바뀌 더라도 그시간엔 그장소에 옮겨짐

Q magnus Skewer 이동중 무적? or Pause (sven 스턴) glinmps-> 모두이동

Q io tether relocate 다중이동? fail 67

Q 닥시 ion shell on 적팀 -> 적팀 리키 죽음

Q Riki/PA blink strike/phamtom strike 즉시공격?

Q dark seer다중스택

Q Last Word : You have basic vision over the Last Word target while the initial debuff is on it.

Q Batrider Q illusion사용?

Q Drow  Precision Aura  -> base damage? (to DR), raw damage (to allies)

Q Jugg Healing ward : building? ward?

Q weaver VS razor

Schuchi purged? by unstable current

Q Puck E/D  in Ensnare    안됨/됨

Q soul ring 사용뒤 마나또 채우고, 마나 사용하면?

Q 아마돈 W로 흡수해도 평온의장화 깨짐

Q bane Nightmar => orb쓰면

Q Clinkz같은 wind-walk 유닛 크립캠프에 어택땅찍으면 최대사정거리에서 안쏨

Q Orchid can target creeps. golem??

Q Death pact같이 HP변하는것  공격받는 화면표시

A Wall of replica  Initial dmg   통과때마다 O A Slow orb effect(arrow effect)   DR, creep, skadi A all random 시 swap 해도 골드안깎임, 기술찍고 스왑하면 그대로 남음, 아이템도 구매자가 가지고감 나는 랜덤 ally는 평픽시는 swap자 -100 -150?

Q swap 머니  사용후하면 ? (올랜덤시)

Q ice blast Passing 데미지?

Q 계산 (Mana break, lifesteal, cleave/critical), magic resistance

Q Cleave (컨카tidebringer bonus dmg, 스펙터 desolete)

Q Spells last the same duration on Dominated units as they would on a hero. -> Chen???

Q Pipe /arcane orb

Q 리키R silence -> 아닌듯

Q Synergism - 초반인비(현상금,거미,클링츠, ) + Ion shell

Q 원거리에서 킬할때 경험치

Q Buildings siege creep

searing frost curse of avenus

Q SB Q(* Some items are usable during the charge without interrupting it. Using Black King Bar right before you strike will ensure your charge doesn't get countered.) R

Q Collision Size

Q Linken 애니메이션 적에게 보임?

Q linken에 막히는 범위기술

Q Feast/Dismemeber(agha) heal량

Q2 True sight 주는 기술 기술시전후 true sight는 아니어도 맞는 기술

Q2 vision/Flying vision 주는기술

A Pa blur / invisible->작동안함   fog->작동함

Q1 ManaBreak, lifesteal, cleave

TA Psi blade 계산

Q1 pulverize magical damg?

Q2 Diffusal blade  purge self    Slow??

Q2 WIP invisibility, vision

Q2 Weaver and Vampiric Aura

Q3 Pugna decripify + E blade

A self-damage BKB defence

Life break -> 막아짐

Q3 Clock Cog 3hit by Illusions

Q4 디나이/siege unit (/ building) /attack modifier

디나이 bash 만 가능 refraction+psi blade?

메카

Q5 corrosive skin : 모든공격 Return : 모든공격 (maybe) , 시작시

Q6 Movement Speed/ Death prophet =>궁 공격우선순위 혈석사용

Q 매직스틱 힐트롤 소환 차지 (?)

Q1 Abaddon Clinkz  Purge??

Q2 Ghost scepter and other Status changer

phase, invisible,

Q3 Orb walk with Auto-attack On => 되는듯

Q4 Phantom Strike ->    The first attack is delivered instantly upon landing.

Q5 Vision Give Abilities

Q6 Tiny Craggy Ex  Stun type

Q7 Tower flying vision

A ice blast VS  shallow grave(win)

Q9 Psi blade + Refraction deny

Q10 Item Passive Stacking

The strength and damage components of multiple Skull Bashers will independently stack, but the bash chance will not. => bash chances are stacking by chance-stacking rule

Bloodstone case

Q5 Axe Berserker's Call  Prevent  SB's Greater Bash ??

Q5 Sckuchi on Ethereal unit (pass through?)

Q5 (HP removal) Rupture cancels salve

Q6 Battle hunger -> dont x Bottle

Q5 io thether  거리 relocate vision, channel ability/

A io Treads/Mordiggian =>체력회복안됨, 실제체력회복x

Q7 Fv backtrack, Hp removal, Mordiggian

Q5

riki 0.23 living armor -> damage block titan stomp  spirit

ghost form(gho scept, E blade, decrepify)

auto-attacking

A List of not using PRD => Counter Helix, Skull basher, counter helix, Essence aura

Q Living Armor damage block

Q8 Zeus lightning Bolt TrueSight 3 secs?

Q9 Ogre magi ?

Q10 puck vision Illusory Orb

Q11 tree destroying--

Q11 Ghost scepter and item use(magic wand)

Q phantom lancer, illusions,    changes undoed

Tranquil boots MS bonus on illusion only 25 (75-50) 6.79 Tranquil boots illusions에 문제

Q17 Projectile vision

Q Dodgeable

by blinking (teleport X)

by invisibility


 * teleport : tp, t boots, teleportation, kotl D, chen E,

Q18 (HP removal) Backtrack dodges Armlet's Unholy Strength

Q19 Unholy Strength  Illusions

Q21 illusions 구분가능 스킬

lion mana lion hex, ss hex

Q Lion - earth spike 0.52 Nyx - Impale 0.52

Rubick - telekinesis

Kunkka - torrent (pause?) 기술 안맞음 1.53

Q Kunkka tidebringer cleave 원형이 아닌듯?

Q21 wrong info in Wiki

Fv backtrack can dodge Unholy strength A 워락골렘 X  Fv궁x 사이렌o 메두사궁 Huskar E 설명부족 Magic Damage Regi/Ampl HP removal sssss Flying Vision WIP

Q24 Phantom Edge

Q25 Auto-caster manual->skill? auto-cast->passive?

Q25 Astral debuff purgeable

OD sanity's eclipse and Atos

Q26 Razor

Answers
A Bottle 1/3, 2/3  => Courier 슬로우 안됨

A Surge ability Surge, lycan, schuchi, haste rune, stampede

A silence/orb Orb/Toggle 모두 silence함

A Slardar Amplify damage *Does not provide vision when applied on creeps.

A force staff -> tp, trav boots, freezing field, death ward 전부 cancel안시킴    *freezing field 위치이동 shadow amulet, meld -> 포셉에 전부 풀림

Chronosphere -> only fv moved, All Other paused units X Black Hole -> only works on enigma, All other inflicted units X

A invi풀면서 때리는4종(shad blade, vendetta, bh shad walk, meld)

A kunkka E ILLUSION 사용가능X animation만O

A JAKIro vs Serpent Ward X

A shadow Amulet 방향만바꾸면 invi안깨짐

A Kunkka tidebringer + shadow blade cleave모두됨

A MS (base+flat) * ( % 보너스 or % 슬로우 의 합 )  0< ≤100 -> 최대100까지 slow됨

A Swarm do not Hit warlock Golem

A instant killing 3 (culling blade, ice blast, reaper of scythe)

A feedback bkb에 막힘? A SandKing Q burrow strike kinetic field 통과 A 루빅 trap 유지됨   ta  trap + ...

A Axe R illusions에도 먹힘 cd 재생, buff

A blademail works on creeps

A Broodmother - Webs have a 150 sight range, and don't prevent neutrals from spawning. (confiremed)

A Broodmother - Spin Web  Wind walk? O 아군/적 에따라 다름? 모두같음

A Walrus and Cleave O

A np teleportation 더블클릭 -> fountain

A amulet force-staffed? -> 제거됨

A Orb 날라오는도중 Ghost Scepter -> 회피됨

A Warlock golem : chronosphere(영향받음), song of siren(X), ston gaze(X) A Orb attack 도 tranquil boots Break함

A SB 차지중 Shift 예약 못함/ 대부분의 아템은됨 A riki backstab siege크립한테 안됨

A diffusal blade purge   Panda R에 쓰면  영웅취급됨   바로 안죽음

A OD essense Aura item X    정말? O

A lifesteal HP 1 에 쓰면? 실제준 데미지 량만큼 heal됨

A Ghost scepter / physical abilities -> 데미지 안받음 anchor smash로 실험

eye of the storm swarm

poison touch counter helix Slithereen Crush death ward

Living Armor on Damage Block article
I noticed you have added Treant's Living Armor to the Damage block page a few times now. I would direct you to the changelog for version 6.77c, when Living Armor was changed from blocking only physical damage to blocking all sources of damage. For this reason, Living Armor is no longer considered damage block and does not belong in that article. -- Stupid Lemon Eater  18:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

실질 physical 기술 + medalion?
quill spray exorcism poison touch anchor smash slithereen crush death ward shadow wave? echo stomp/earth splitter omnislash eye of the storm swarm poi

counter helix return

Attack Modifier
1. conditional 2. ability 3. standard

(reality lift +dmg)

Attack Modifier 1 UAM passives(Mana break, fury swipes, common [lifesteal]s except Satanic, chance passives(mjollnir, entangling craw),

2 non-UAM passives(Necromastery, Backstab, Essence shift, Desolate, Greater bash, common [bash]s, Curse of avenus, 1 crits(normal chance crits, pseudo-crits)  +item crits

2 killing passives(Greevil, Blood bath, sadist ,)

3 etc (geostrike, overload, nethertoxin, geminate attack, 3 Arrow effect(UAM auto-cast) : all ranged, all 7,    +jakiro (liquid fire)  Searing arrow(p), Frost arrow(slow), Impetus(p), Burning spear(m), Arcane orb(p), Glaives or wisdom(p), Poison attack(slow)      +jakiro (liquid fire)

4 Multiple target 1 non-AOE (fixed target number) : Split shot(toggle) Moon glaive(passive) 2 AOE common [Cleave]s (sven;passive, kunkka:passive w/ cooldown, magnus:limited, Tiny's Grow(aganim);passive)    * item (battelfury) Splash (dk, jakiro  etc (Flack cannon(limited, activated passive), psi blade,

5 Attack speed (fiery soul, Berserker's blood

Bonus damage

+raw 표시 Refraction, Enchant totem, Alarcrity, Static link, Necromastery, God's strength, BB's warpath, BLOODRAGE, INSATIABLE BITE, Aura(Vengeance Aura, Luna blessing, Precision Aura, Packleader's Aura, Feral impulse)

+raw 표시안됨

backstab, nethertoxin, geminate attack    (meld)

Arcane orb(p), glaives of wisdom(p), searing arrow, lycan+damg troll, druid(synegy:bear bonus damage+), lycan(+crit) empower

-% split shot Focus fire


 * shad blad, feedback, mana break   :   +raw

Attack Modifier 2
Query the extent of typical lifesteal

Attack passive (physical) can lifesteal (Manabreak(U), Feast, Searing arrow(U*), Backstab, Necromastery, fury swipes(U), nethertoxin

* UAM + lifesteal 방법 : Vladimir, SK vampiric aura (all)

List of bonus +/% damage *Separate : lifesteal o, crit x Raw : lifesteal o, crit o. crit : '100+100' cleave : lifesteal : 평타에달린것, physical . shield, que blade, feedback, cleave, bash,

bonus dmg ->crit ->cleave ->lifesteal

1 Base dmg + Raw dmg 에 표시되는것 : alarcrity, necromastery, bloodbath, Aura (Packleaders, vengeance, luna blessing..),           -> 전부 cr, cl, ls

2 +raw dmg표시는 안되지만 combat log에 통채로 표시되는 attack modifier (mana break,              -> cr X, cl X 그외 (shad blade,                   -> cr X, cl O

3 (+raw dmg표시 안되고) combat log에 따로 나오는것 : vendetta, meld, feast? -> cr X, cl X

shad blade (2)(cr X, cl O,

m*Anti-Mage - Mana Break (2)(cr x, cl x, ls m*Brewmaster - Earth - Pulverize m*Diffusal Blade (3300) - Feedback m*Invoker - Alacrity (1) m*Slardar - Bash (2) *Sniper - Headshot (3?) *Templar Assassin - Refraction (1)( m*Lifestealer - Feast (2) m*Tusk - Walrus PUNCH! (cl o)
 * Clinkz - Searing Arrows (s) (2)(cr X,
 * Riki - Backstab (s) (2)
 * Ursa - Fury Swipes (2?)
 * Ursa - Enrage (1?)

m*Bounty Hunter - Shadow Walk (3)
 * Nyx Assassin - Vendetta (3)
 * Shadow Blade (3000) - Shadow Walk (special)
 * tide bringer (3)
 * blood rage (raw)
 * war path (raw)
 * insatisable hunger (raw?)
 * critical strike chaos bh jugg lycan pa sk
 * death pact (raw?)
 * precision aura (raw), markmanship (/raw)
 * enchant totem (raw)
 * astral spirit (raw)
 * synergy (+), battle cry (+)
 * luna blessing (raw)
 * howl (raw?), feral impulse (raw)
 * empower (raw)
 * static link (raw)
 * necromastery (raw)
 * grow (raw)
 * troll bash (s)
 * nethertoxin (s)

purge, dispellers
purges diffusal, creep's, ShadowDemon, stongaze, Unstable current

tornado Bloodrage instance kill(cullingblade, ice blast ??) tidehunter w (high purge) dark pact (bane R 풀음{not purgeable generally}, time lapse(?5초전것 까지도) 아바돈 궁 (high purge?) Doom Brew' dispell magic

illusions(manta, naga mirror image, phantasm),

magic immunitys : blade fury, repel,

Invulnerability granted by transformation(true form,

Q15 triggered ability(HP removal)
Q15 triggered ability(HP removal) Counter helix

Return ** (checked in wiki) Corrosive skin  ** Craggy ** (checked in wiki)

Bristleback

Refraction Backtrack evasions

Dispersion

Blademail Carapace >피해반사 기술들, 반사대상, 반사량(reduction),

spell triggered overload, static field, unstable current

Q long casting time ability
long casting-time ability (requiem, teleportation, assassinate, relocate, poof(x channel), nether strike, ice path, Leshurac's split earth(X),

long-casted ability (buff placed) (luna R, eye of the storm, leshrac R(+invi X), exorcism, epicenter, static link, stongaze, firefly, charge of darkness, Clock Q, gyro Q, blade fury,

shadow blade (long-casted abilities, channeling abilities, Toggle abilities

Q16 Toggle ability
Toggle ability

mana shield Io overcharge split shot rot pulse nova agility gain Troll Q

Q (TP) channeling,/ TS whirling death

(http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=108805)

"Toggled abilities" "Wind Walk abilities" "Buff placers" (self, no motion, )

whirling death(x quill spray) Blade fury, (하나있음), Sprint Enrage? Strafe 자동발동 (Burrowed time, counter helix, 회수스킬 (Chakram return, Astral spirit return,

Items O Shiva's Guard, and Phase Boots, Mom, Armlet of Mordiggian, X Ghost scepter(X+tp due to balance), blade mail(X)

Q TP cancel (bloodrageX, sile E channeling cancel

Toggle-like song of siren (X)

Creep technique
agro

저멀리 떨어진 영웅 auto-attack 눌러도 500범위내에 크립 어그로 끌림

디나이시 어택시작할때 50% 이하인지 체크함

처음 8분 속도변화 -> (위치X)시간에 따라

Magic immune & Spell immune
magic immune Magic immunitys Animal courier -> shuriken 쓰면?

Ancient creep spell immunity warlock golem (hex) (spike X)

Brewmaster warriors

ward, heal ward, plag ward, serpent ward

spell immune linken Roshan

Synergism
Q Bash: Bashes and Critical Strikes can proc off of the same attack, but only bashes that deal physical damage will be multiplied.

Synergism - 초반인비(현상금,거미,클링츠, ) + Ion shell 공속 + 확률발동 (crit, UAM 근접기, invi

physical damage -> medallion, desolator, cuirass, CRITICAL, early physical skill -> medallion

+raw dmg (type 1) + 크리티컬

base dmg bonus (Attribute,  ) + % dmg bonus

invi 캐릭터 + diffusal blade (근접)

힘캐 evasion (Halberd{힘케orHP낮은케, 상대 3-4패시브 평타캐리상대,

전략전술
Anti-Linken  : urn

Random -> Bottle, soul ring

Attack speed(midas, lothar, treads) + bkb

Lothar + channeling (

magic stick : 전투시, skill-spammer 상대 (bb, cm, pa,     ), 힘민캐 mana, magic wand : 3-all-stats, 축적,

초반 item : shield, venom orb, 2X guntlet,

캐릭
6.79 OP list bs Thirst veno, sven,

1렙 최고스킬 gyro Q, jugg Q, Axe E clinkzQ

1렙 스턴 sven Q, sk Q, venge Q ck Q slardar, titan Q, centa Q cm W(특히크립), naga W, meepo W,

Omni *아군근접캐+라인전견제형magical틱데미지 상대

Rubic *상대의 확정스턴, 많은 스킬없는경우 (스벤Q/R, 해골왕Q,  *한타 큰 궁극기 (ES, veno, enigma, luna R, sandking R,  *

AA *체젠으로승부하는 상대캐리상대 (Alchemi, DK, axe *체젠템 (메칸즘, 매직스틱, 평온장화 Q MEEPO Spectre상대  desolate 작동 ?

Weaver >Sniper >낮은HP 원거리 후방지원형 서폿(cm

lycan, clinkz, fv, dr, ld

magina, PA, ls, huskar, SK, sven, PL, riki, ursa, troll, viper, weaver, spider, slardar, alchemi, ck morph/meepo spectre, medusa, bs, DK, Sniper, naga

jugg, abaddon, brew, bounty, sf, lanaya, razor, slark, luna, venge, doom, sb, ns, Tiny mirana, gyro

nyx

A ember R VS Rupture

Q dust- > ward 보임?

map
각지역 mid-중형캠프, 지도보다 소형, 55초에 풀링해야됨

다이어 탑 라지캠프 좌측위 지도보다 풀링지역 더 작음

Disassemble
Domi -> 완갑 + 흡혈 E blade -> 고셉 + butterfly Abyssal -> 배셔 + 디레 몰니르 -> 맬 + 퀴라스 산야 -> 샌지|할버드 + 야샤|만타

개선사항
스벤 R 25/80         *모든 확정스턴

BB

meepo 10/20/30/40 thirst 40%/20% or 30%/30% ,  bloodbath rescale  unit kill 5/10/15/20 sniper 이동속도 290->280, headshot 거리 400이내면 RIKI backstab 범위축소 펜어 q 사거리 axe e 범위하향 morphling slardar 마나 모자르게

bk 9/8/7/6/5

가면 R

칼날갑옷 2단계 가격하향