User talk:Saspoon

Attack effect & Cleave, Crit
bonus dmg ability : backstab, item : feedback, shad blade

cleave (attack effect) ability : tide bringer, great cleave, psi blade* item : battle fury ex) shad blade(item*) + psi blade*(ability), shad blade(item) + tide bringer(ability)

A quelling blade => attack effect 로 취급 Q(lifesteal) ? A Cleave => attack effect 로 취급 A lothar 만 +dmg bonus

Q cleave 정확한 범위? Q Cleave (컨카tidebringer bonus dmg, 스펙터 desolete) cleave + (lothar o, backstab x, feast ?, manabreak) Q emberW/juggQ => cleave(Battle fury)

Q Manabreak(U), Backstab   => Cleave

(1) crit o, cleave o, lifesteal o +raw dmg (2) crit x, cleave o, lifesteal o                 lothar (3) crit x, cleave x, lifesteal o all

Q backstab(attack effect (2) ) + cleave

Q entangle vs counter helix

Q lothar vs tower

illusions & attack speed
http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/illusions

treads XX armlet X

yasha O Sny O Manta O

Innerbeast O endurance aura O

TA
(board 에 죽일때 데미지 -> 본래 dmg나옴) (Q lifesteal HP 1 에 쓰면? -> 실제 상대가 받은 데미지 량만큼 heal됨) (Mana break mana 태운 양 만큼만 데미지)

Psi blade (pure) : target대상에 입힌 데미지 그대로 뒤의 적들에게 데미지 (뒤의적들의 armor는 무관 ∵pure dmg) Refraction쓰면 기본 + raw dmg 이므로 Psi blade에도 적용됨 Deny시 Refraction charge 감소 X => Refraction + deny -> Psi blade 계속사용

TA+shad blade -> pasi됨

죽일때 본래dmg대로 spill dmg들어감

Q TA Q 보이는것

Q TA Q vs Acid Spray

meepo
A meepo  R  , agha & tarrasque flat HP 사용X

A Quelling blade X A Zeus 궁 clone들 안맞음

q
http://dotasecrets.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/kill-or-not-culling-blade/ Q axe R ice blast blademail fatal bond ? carapace dmg between 20-??

Q Schuchi VS Cog

Q Exorcism Invisible hit?

A force staff -> tp, trav boots, freezing field, death ward 전부 cancel안시킴    *freezing field 위치이동 shadow amulet, meld -> 포셉에 전부 풀림

Chronosphere -> only fv moved, All Other paused units X Black Hole -> only works on enigma, All other inflicted units X

Q force scepter VS dismember

Q Smoke vs Sandstrom

Q CK revision

Q Two Basher Stack?

Q 언다잉 좀비 -> illusions

Q player-based unit 절벽밑 miss확률?

Q backtrack vs AOE

Q 유령의홀 ensnare => 걸리기전에 쓰지말고 걸린후에 써야함.

Q charge and distance magic stick - 1200 in vision urn of shadows -

Q creep aggro 2 sec cd !!

A aghanim after spell steal => 업그레이드됨

Q incoming damage reduction overcharge 20, spectre e 22, mana shield 50

A damage Absorbtion apotic shield, ember w, pipe, mana shield

Q batrider for scep, hook to bat/victim Q Batrider Q illusion사용? Q 루빅이 박쥐Q 뺏으면

Q 슬라크 pounce탈출법 / ds 복제의벽 burrow strike, timber W

Q 판별법

1. 도끼, io, chen, 2. rupture대처 3. tp 타이밍

Q dagon ; delayed damage after the animation

Q Astral debuff purgeable ? OD sanity's eclipse and Atos

Q blink Q move, invulnerable      leap, skewer blink, invulnerable      burrow strike, move, vulnerable

Q puase/banish  WIP

Q naix infest Lifestealer gains experience while under the effects of Infest. 더블킬

Q mirana R, if mirana dead?

Q 광역스턴 tinyQ, centaQ, slardarW, earthE,

Q Divine Rapier can be purchased by a courier, but cannot otherwise be picked up by a courier.

Q linken / Refresher

Q list of X PRD skull, abyssal, greater bash, essence aura

Q blademail VS heart stopper

Q essence aura / Axe skills

Q damage calculation apotic shield, flame guard, bristleback, kraken shield, pipe

Q 나무파면 지도 fog 에 그냥보임?

Q 대지령 slow tusk 눈덩이도 slow?

Q vision track amplify damage

Q io tether  거리 relocate vision, channel ability/ io tether -> Blocked by Magic immune,   but x dispell after tether

Q 6.79 sb R  VS  force scepter

Q charges magic stick  new urn slot priority blood stone slot priority

Q stun sky nyx impale lion torrent toss telekinesis Ravage

Q Counter helix stun O/ bash X ? 퍼지R 같은 메즈?

Q Primal roar    side damage/bkb

Q Timbersaw W+Q Q데미지 범위

Q Axe Q  VS   ursa W

Q 스나 R  VS   tp

Q 불꽃 R중복

Q diffusal feedback   blocked by magic immunity? mana 1 남은상태에서 때리면? ->AM mana break  dmg by exact mana burnt

Q reactive armor VS Skill dmg auto-attack만 계산 -> counter helix, reactive armor, tranquil boots,

A mana leak : 300 distance in less than 0.1 second Rupture : 1300 distance in 0.25 seconds lasso 400 units in 0.05s meat hook 1300 units at a speed 1600

Q sk R slow 범위/debuff on hero?

Q same as taken  amli랑   지정 amli랑 *stack?

Q 안보여도 공격 Leshrac W, static field 보이는것만 공격 flack cannon

Q abaddon R mechanic

Q aa R 상대가보고 피할수있는?

Q lich R VS  invulnerability

Q Dispersion * Reflected damage does not disable items like Blink Dagger.

Q Chakra magic bkbblock ?

Q Healing 끊기는 조건

salve : 20 (before reduction)               (HP removal X)       Q self-damage 취소 clarity                                     (HP removal X)       Q self-damage 취소 bottle : 20 and above (before reduction),              (HP removal)        Q self-damage regen rune :

Q botts Regen Rune 도 damage 20 cut 인듯

urn of shadows : other than creep damage                          (HP removal)        Q self-damage 취소 tranquil : any auto-attack, skill-damage doesnt break, tarrasque : from enemy hero (or Ro3) 4/6(밀리/레인지),  from player-controlled units (other than hero itself) 3 Blink dagger : from player-based units 3 (or Ro3),    (HP removal X)                         self-damage 취소

Refraction : 5 damage (after reduction) Cold snap : greater than 10 (after reductions). Does not trigger on self damage. REcall : player-based damage io relocate :

Q pipe pipe pipe Chakram pure dmg 못방어?

Q 백도어방지범위

Q Mirana Leap   vs   Storm W

Q Trap : pounce, puck r, shackle : ss shackles, storm w, pudge r, lasso, entangle : cm w, druid,

Q desolator corruption 되고 magic immunity되면 dispell?

invi4종 shad blade -> (2) vendetta -> (3) shad walk -> (3) meld -> (3)


 * shad blade + (vendetta + shad walk) 안됨  => 기술 우선

Q 컨카 R rum효과

Q Summons warlock golem can be hexed  X stuned

Q tidehunter W rupter dispel??

Q Windrunner R damage reduction Tidehunter E Damage Reduction: 40% split shot Damage reduction Tiny R (+agha) building 75% + dmg

Q tiny로 건물추뎀 % 범위 tower/building dmg들어가는 차이?

Q Tusk Frozen Sigil   building?

Q Tusk R, lifesteal

Q 닉스 carapace Sile E에 안통함 (먼저 데미지%sielnce 발동) magic immune에도 안통함

Q sile E Lastword damage -> Enemy skill effect/damage -> silence

Q mjollnir

Q Burrow strike (invulnerability) ->DS wall of replica 복제안됨? ->Kinetic field 통과 ->Pounce 통과?

Q Illusions char. self (pl, spectre, naga, Ck, Manta users enemy (morphling, SD, DS,

Q Skadi+illusion(manda..)?

A Axe Q tower? X

Q 고셉에 허스카 불창

Q Mirana E 스나궁 피해짐

Q jugg Q + invi?

Q Kunkka R to ally HP removal

Q Nyx Q Unit Target도 됨?

Q Stongaze쓰다 스턴먹으면 멈춤 -> 다른 long-casted spell? Epicenter -> 죽어도 지속

A Axe Q orb -> orb작동

A 고대크립(magic immune)/로샨(spell block)   Arcane orb 사용

Q viper strike This skill does allow for heroes to be denied. ?

Q TOWER / FOG OF WAR

Q dust 먹고 크립도 보이남 -> 중립크립도 보이는듯?

Q lifesteal siege unit한테됨/ tower는 안되는듯?

Q Corrosive skin and bottle

Bugs? Q pudge hook 반드시 장소에 도착 도중에 위치 바뀌 더라도 그시간엔 그장소에 옮겨짐 Q magnus Skewer 이동중 무적? or Pause (sven 스턴) glinmps-> 모두이동 Q io tether relocate 다중이동? fail 67

Q DS ion shell on 적팀 -> 적팀 리키 죽음

A dark seer다중스택

Q Last Word : You have basic vision over the Last Word target while the initial debuff is on it.

Q Drow  Precision Aura  -> base damage? (to DR), raw damage (to allies)

Q Jugg Healing ward : building? ward?

Q attack wo/ losing invi. treant, riki slark

Q weaver VS razor Schuchi purged? by unstable current

Q Puck E/D  in Ensnare    안됨/됨

Q soul ring 사용뒤 마나또 채우고, 마나 사용하면?

A 아바돈 W로 흡수해도 평온의장화 깨짐

Q bane Nightmare => orb쓰면

Q shift ctrl -> auto-attack follow-

Q Clinkz같은 wind-walk 유닛 크립캠프에 어택땅찍으면 최대사정거리에서 안쏨

Q Orchid can target creeps. golem??

Q Death pact같이 HP변하는 buff 사라질때, 공격받는 화면표시

A Wall of replica  Initial dmg   illusions 생성시마다 O A Slow orb effect(arrow effect)   Frost arrow(x), frost attack(, Cold attack A all random 시 swap 해도 골드안깎임, 기술찍고 스왑하면 그대로 남음, 아이템도 구매자가 가지고감  나는 랜덤 ally는 평픽시는 swap자 -100 -150?

Q swap 머니  사용후하면 ? (올랜덤시)

A ice blast Passing 데미지?

--- --- --- Q deny 3 Qop, doom, gale

5 rot, alche w, mist coil, nightmale, bloodrage slarkQ, double edge,   +aa,

viper?

Q rp, blackhole,

Q Spells last the same duration on Dominated units as they would on a hero. -> Chen??? Dominated unit is not able to block other units from moving. wtf?

Q Pipe /arcane orb

Q 리키R silence -> 아닌듯??? skyrath -> invi break

Q Synergism - 초반인비(현상금,거미,클링츠, ) + Ion shell

Q 원거리에서 킬할때 경험치

Q Buildings siege creep

searing frost curse of avenus

Q SB Q(* Some items are usable during the charge without interrupting it. Using Black King Bar right before you strike will ensure your charge doesn't get countered.) R

Q Collision Size

Q Linken 애니메이션 적에게 보임?

Q linken에 막히는 범위기술

Q Feast/Dismemeber(agha) heal량

Q2 True sight 주는 기술 기술시전후 true sight는 아니어도 맞는 기술

A Pa blur / invisible->작동안함   fog->작동함

Q1 pulverize magical damg?

Q2 WIP invisibility, vision

Q2 Weaver and Vampiric Aura

Q3 Pugna decripify + E blade

A self-damage BKB defence

Life break -> 막아짐

Q3 Clock Cog 3hit by Illusions

Q4 디나이/siege unit (/ building) /attack modifier

디나이 bash 만 가능 refraction+psi blade?

메카

Q5 corrosive skin : 모든공격 Return : 모든공격 (maybe) , 시작시

Q6 Movement Speed/ Death prophet =>궁 공격우선순위 혈석사용

Q 매직스틱 힐트롤 소환 차지 (?)

Q1 Abaddon Clinkz  Purge??

Q2 Ghost scepter and other Status changer

phase, invisible,

Q3 Orb walk with Auto-attack On => 되는듯

Q4 Phantom Strike ->    The first attack is delivered instantly upon landing.

Q6 Tiny Craggy Ex  Stun type

Q7 Tower flying vision

A ice blast VS  shallow grave(win)

Q9 Psi blade + Refraction deny

Q10 Item Passive Stacking

The strength and damage components of multiple Skull Bashers will independently stack, but the bash chance will not. => bash chances are stacking by chance-stacking rule

Bloodstone case

Q5 Axe Berserker's Call  Prevent  SB's Greater Bash ??

Q5 Sckuchi on Ethereal unit (pass through?)

Q5 (HP removal) Rupture cancels salve

A io Treads/Mordiggian =>체력회복안됨, 실제체력회복x

Q7 Fv backtrack, Hp removal, Mordiggian

Q5

riki 0.23 living armor -> damage block titan stomp  spirit

ghost form(gho scept, E blade, decrepify)

auto-attacking

Q Living Armor damage block

Q8 Zeus lightning Bolt TrueSight 3 secs?

Q9 Ogre magi ?

Q10 puck vision Illusory Orb

Q11 tree destroying--

Q11 Ghost scepter and item use(magic wand)

Q phantom lancer, illusions,    changes undoed

Tranquil boots MS bonus on illusion only 25 (75-50) 6.79 Tranquil boots illusions에 문제

Q Dodgeable

by blinking (teleport X)

by invisibility


 * teleport : tp, t boots, teleportation, kotl D, chen E,

Q18 (HP removal) Backtrack dodges Armlet's Unholy Strength

Q19 Unholy Strength  Illusions

Q 분신제거

lion mana lion hex, ss hex disruptor w

Q Lion - earth spike 0.52 Nyx - Impale 0.52

Rubick - telekinesis

Kunkka - torrent (pause?) 기술 안맞음 1.53

Q21 wrong info in Wiki

Fv backtrack can dodge Unholy strength A 워락골렘 X  Fv궁x 사이렌o 메두사궁 Huskar E 설명부족 Magic Damage Regi/Ampl HP removal sssss Flying Vision WIP

Q24 Phantom Edge

Q25 Auto-caster manual->skill? auto-cast->passive?

Q26 Razor

Answers
A buring spear 후 ghost scepter -> +40% magic dmg.

A slow(frost) arrow 3 DR, creep, Skadi(magic immune through)

A Bottle 1/3, 2/3  => Courier 슬로우 안됨

A Surge ability Surge, lycan, schuchi, haste rune, stampede

culling blade?

A silence/orb Orb/Toggle 모두 silence함

A Slardar Amplify damage *Does not provide vision when applied on creeps.

A invi풀면서 때리는4종(shad blade, vendetta, bh shad walk, meld)

A kunkka E ILLUSION 사용가능X animation만O

A JAKIro vs Serpent Ward X

A shadow Amulet 방향만바꾸면 invi안깨짐

A MS (base+flat) * ( % 보너스 or % 슬로우 의 합 )  0< ≤100 -> 최대100까지 slow됨

A Swarm do not Hit warlock Golem

A instant killing 3 (culling blade, ice blast, reaper of scythe)

A SandKing Q burrow strike kinetic field 통과 A 루빅 trap 유지됨   ta  trap + ...

A Axe R illusions에도 먹힘 cd 재생, buff

A blademail works on creeps

A Broodmother - Webs have a 150 sight range, and don't prevent neutrals from spawning. (confiremed)

A Broodmother - Spin Web  Wind walk? O 아군/적 에따라 다름? 모두같음

A Walrus and Cleave O

A np teleportation 더블클릭 -> fountain

A amulet force-staffed? -> 제거됨

A Orb 날라오는도중 Ghost Scepter -> 회피됨

A Warlock golem : chronosphere(영향받음), song of siren(X), ston gaze(X)

A Orb attack 도 tranquil boots Break함

A SB 차지중 Shift 예약 못함/ 대부분의 아템은됨 A riki backstab siege크립한테 안됨

A diffusal blade purge   Panda R에 쓰면  영웅취급됨   바로 안죽음

A OD essense Aura item X    정말? O

A Ghost scepter / physical abilities -> 데미지 안받음 anchor smash로 실험

eye of the storm swarm

poison touch counter helix Slithereen Crush death ward

Living Armor on Damage Block article
I noticed you have added Treant's Living Armor to the Damage block page a few times now. I would direct you to the changelog for version 6.77c, when Living Armor was changed from blocking only physical damage to blocking all sources of damage. For this reason, Living Armor is no longer considered damage block and does not belong in that article. -- Stupid Lemon Eater  18:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Tik
TIk DAMAGE Q URN of shadows venomancer viper Q axe W qop batrider dark seer

Q smaller amount ion shell 1/10 dark pact 1/10 AVALANCHE 1/4

실질 physical 기술 + medalion?
quill spray exorcism poison touch anchor smash slithereen crush death ward shadow wave? echo stomp/earth splitter omnislash eye of the storm swarm poi

counter helix return

Attack Modifier
0. ability (manual) 1. conditional (item; maelstrom, mjollnir) 2. ability (auto) 3. standard(item)

(reality lift +dmg)

Attack Modifier 1 UAM passives(Mana break, Fury swipes, [Lifesteal]s, Chance passives(Maelstrom, Mjollnir, Entangling craw),

2 non-UAM passives(Necromastery, Backstab, Essence shift, Desolate, [bash]s, Curse of avenus, 1 crits(normal chance crits, pseudo-crits)  +item crits  2 killing passives(Greevil, Blood bath, sadist ,) 3 etc (geostrike, overload, nethertoxin, geminate attack, 3 Arrow effect(UAM auto-cast) : all ranged, all 7,    +jakiro (liquid fire) Searing arrow*, Frost arrow, Impetus, Burning spear, Arcane orb, Glaives or wisdom(p), Poison attack(slow)     +jakiro (liquid fire) 4 Multiple target 1 non-AOE (fixed target number) : Split shot, Moon glaive 2 AOE [Cleave]s (sven, kunkka[cooldown], magnus[buff], Tiny's Grow), pasi blade    * item (battelfury) Splash (dk, jakiro, serpent ward  etc (Flack cannon(limited, activated passive)

5 Attack speed (fiery soul, Berserker's blood

Bonus damage

+raw 표시 Enchant totem, Alarcrity, empower, God's strength, BB's warpath, BLOODRAGE, INSATIABLE BITE, Aura(Vengeance Aura%, Luna blessing+, Precision Aura%, Packleader's Aura%, Feral impulse%), lycan(howl+, feral impulse%) Static link, Necromastery, Refraction

+raw 표시안됨 (cleave 여부) backstab, feast, fury swipe(U), druid(synegy:bear bonus damage+, battle cry +dmg) nethertoxin, geminate attack, searing arrow(U) *lothar o, feedback(U), mana break(U)

-% split shot Focus fire

Attack Modifier 2
Query the extent of typical lifesteal

List of bonus +/% damage *Separate : lifesteal o, crit x Raw : lifesteal o, crit o. crit : '100+100' cleave : lifesteal : 평타에달린것, physical . shield, que blade, feedback, cleave, bash,

1 Base dmg + Raw dmg 에 표시되는것 : alarcrity, necromastery, bloodbath, Aura (Packleaders, vengeance, luna blessing..),           -> 전부 cr, cl, ls

2 +raw dmg표시는 안되지만 combat log에 통채로 표시되는 attack modifier (mana break,              -> cr X, cl X 그외 (shad blade,                   -> cr X, cl O

3 (+raw dmg표시 안되고) combat log에 따로 나오는것 : vendetta, meld, feast? -> cr X, cl X

shad blade (2)(cr X, cl O,

m*Anti-Mage - Mana Break (2)(cr x, cl x, ls m*Brewmaster - Earth - Pulverize m*Diffusal Blade (3300) - Feedback m*Invoker - Alacrity (1) m*Slardar - Bash (2) *Sniper - Headshot (3?) *Templar Assassin - Refraction (1)( m*Lifestealer - Feast (2) m*Tusk - Walrus PUNCH! (cl o)
 * Clinkz - Searing Arrows (s) (2)(cr X,
 * Riki - Backstab (s) (2)
 * Ursa - Fury Swipes (2?)
 * Ursa - Enrage (1?)

m*Bounty Hunter - Shadow Walk (3)
 * Nyx Assassin - Vendetta (3)
 * Shadow Blade (3000) - Shadow Walk (special)
 * tide bringer (3)
 * blood rage (raw)
 * war path (raw)
 * insatisable hunger (raw?)
 * critical strike chaos bh jugg lycan pa sk
 * death pact (raw?)
 * precision aura (raw), markmanship (/raw)
 * enchant totem (raw)
 * astral spirit (raw)
 * synergy (+), battle cry (+)
 * luna blessing (raw)
 * howl (raw?), feral impulse (raw)
 * empower (raw)
 * static link (raw)
 * necromastery (raw)
 * grow (raw)
 * troll bash (s)
 * nethertoxin (s)

purge, dispellers
purges diffusal, creep's, ShadowDemon, Unstable current

apotic shield

tornado BS Bloodrage instance kill(cullingblade, ice blast ??) tidehunter w (high purge) dark pact (bane R 풀음{not purgeable generally}, time lapse(?5초전것 까지도) 아바돈 궁 (high purge?) Doom Brew' dispell magic

illusions(manta, naga mirror image, phantasm),

magic immunitys : blade fury, repel,

Q repel vs purge

Invulnerability granted by transformation(true form,

triggered ability(HP removal)
Q15 triggered ability(HP removal) Counter helix

Return ** (checked in wiki) Corrosive skin  ** Craggy ** (checked in wiki)

Bristleback

Refraction Backtrack evasions

Dispersion

Blademail Carapace >피해반사 기술들, 반사대상, 반사량(reduction),

spell triggered overload, static field, unstable current

long casting time ability
(Spells with extended cast times)
 * long casting time ability (requiem, teleportation, assassinate, poof(x channel), nether strike, ice path, Leshurac's split earth(X),


 * delayed casted ability (relocate


 * long-casted ability (buff placed) (luna R, eye of the storm, leshrac R(+invi X), exorcism, epicenter, static link, stongaze, firefly, charge of darkness, Clock Q, gyro Q, blade fury,

=>shadow blade (long-casted abilities, channeling abilities, Toggle abilities

Toggle ability
! Toggle ability

mana shield Io overcharge split shot rot pulse nova agility gain Troll Q

Q along with (TP) channeling

(http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=108805)

"Toggled abilities" "Wind Walk abilities" "Buff placers" (self, no motion, )

whirling death(x quill spray) Blade fury, (하나있음), Sprint Enrage? Strafe 자동발동 (Burrowed time, counter helix, 회수스킬 (Chakram return, Astral spirit return,

Items O Shiva's Guard, and Phase Boots, Mom, Armlet of Mordiggian, X Ghost scepter(X+tp due to balance), blade mail(X)

BKB? (btw. charge of darkness O)

Toggle-like song of siren (X)

Creep technique
agro

저멀리 떨어진 영웅 auto-attack 눌러도 500범위내에 크립 어그로 끌림

디나이시 어택시작할때 50% 이하인지 체크함

처음 8분 속도변화 -> (위치X)시간에 따라

Magic immune & Spell immune
magic immune Magic immunitys Animal courier -> shuriken 쓰면?

Ancient creep spell immunity warlock golem (hex) (spike X)

Brewmaster warriors

ward, heal ward, plag ward, serpent ward

spell immune linken Roshan

siege creep (frost arrow o, spell x.. tower/building ( magic immunity (bkb, golem? spell imuunity (linken, roshan?

Q summons referring spell immunity

Brewmaster R -> Resistant skin Plague ward -> Spell immunity Creeps (roshan, ancient, mud golem) -> Spell immunity

Synergism
Q Bash: Bashes and Critical Strikes can proc off of the same attack, but only bashes that deal physical damage will be multiplied.

Synergism - 초반인비(현상금,거미,클링츠, ) + Ion shell 공속 + 확률발동 (crit, UAM 근접기, invi

physical damage -> medallion, desolator, cuirass, CRITICAL, early physical skill -> medallion

+raw dmg (type 1) + 크리티컬

base dmg bonus (Attribute,  ) + % dmg bonus

invi 캐릭터 + diffusal blade (근접)

힘캐 evasion (Halberd{힘케orHP낮은케, 상대 3-4패시브 평타캐리상대,

캐릭
6.79 OP list bs Thirst veno, sven,

1렙 최고스킬 gyro Q, jugg Q, Axe E clinkzQ

1렙 스턴 sven Q, sk Q, venge Q ck Q slardar, titan Q, centa Q cm W(특히크립), naga W, meepo W,

Omni *아군근접캐+라인전견제형magical틱데미지 상대

Rubic *상대의 확정스턴, 많은 스킬없는경우 (스벤Q/R, 해골왕Q,  *한타 큰 궁극기 (ES, veno, enigma, luna R, sandking R,  *

AA *체젠으로승부하는 상대캐리상대 (Alchemi, DK, axe *체젠템 (메칸즘, 매직스틱, 평온장화 Q MEEPO Spectre상대  desolate 작동 ?

Weaver >Sniper >낮은HP 원거리 후방지원형 서폿(cm

lycan, clinkz,

fv, pa, dr, ld, troll, magina

ls, huskar

sven**, SK*, ck*, PL, riki, ursa, viper, weaver, spider, slardar*, alchemi

morph/meepo spectre, medusa, bs, DK, Sniper, naga

jugg, abaddon, brew, bounty, sf, lanaya, razor, slark, luna, venge, doom, sb, ns,

Tiny, mirana, gyro

nyx

A ember R VS Rupture

Q dust- > ward 보임?

map
각지역 mid-중형캠프, 지도보다 소형, 55초에 풀링해야됨

다이어 탑 라지캠프 좌측위 지도보다 풀링지역 더 작음

Disassemble
Domi -> 완갑 + 흡혈 E blade -> 고셉 + butterfly Abyssal -> 배셔 + 디레 몰니르 -> 맬 + 퀴라스 산야 -> 샌지|할버드 + 야샤|만타

개선사항
Alchemist 이속하향 (서폿으로서 사용 x) Mirana 사거리하향 (캐리 힘들도록)

aa등 (체젠을 역으로 데미지로 사용하는 기술)

링켄 charge 2 개

Counter-able risk vs benefit 아이템 세분화