Talk:Dispel/Removable debuffs

Question regarding Boulder Smash and Geomagnetic Grip (targeting unit)
I don't exactly understand what "(targeting unit)" for Earth Spirit's two spells Boulder Smash and Geomagnetic Grip means. For example, according to the table the debuff from "Boulder Smash (targeting unit)" cannot be dispelled even upon death, but the debuff from "Geomagnetic Grip (targeting unit)" can, so what's the difference here? Explanations appreciated.

Apart from that both of them are tagged with 2, meaning their "modifiers can also exist as a buff, since they can be cast on enemies and allies". But as far as I know Geomagnetic Grip cannot be cast on enemies. So why is it mentioned here?

Psion1C (talk) 02:11, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * 1. It refers to the modifier placed on the unit when pulling/pushing a unit. It is separate from the stun/silence modifiers. And the table is correct currently. Boulder Smash's move effect cannot be dispelled, but Grip's move effect can. They are not the same spell, so you shouldn't just compare them.
 * 2. You can cast Geomagnetic Grip on enemy heroes affected by Enchant Remnant.
 *  Bu3ny  (talk) 02:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I just didn't quite understand what was meant with "(targeting unit)". Thanks for your quick explanations. After testing Boulder Smash on an enemy who dies during it, I'm not sure whether the smash debuff is dispelled upon death, since both the debuff icon on the enemy as well as the movement disable of the smash disappear. The rest I'm fine with. Psion1C (talk) 17:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have tested this again and both as a buff and debuff when targeting a unit Boulder Smash is dispelled upon death. Please, proof me wrong, I wanna know the truth. Psion1C (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOFiK25_hvA  Bu3ny  (talk) 18:47, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I know now what my misunderstanding was. I thought something is dispelled upon death when the unit/hero respawns without the respective buff/debuff (e.g Chemical Rage) and not dispelled when it stays active (e.g. Metamorphosis). So, that's why I tested this with a hero and checked the buff/debuff after he respawned, which was gone. Psion1C (talk) 19:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)