User talk:Lemoncream

Archive 1 (2012-2014)

Treasure
I figured that Emoticharm 2015 Emoticon Pack 7 Bundle was a treasure chest too today, so I thought why dont get those complicated numbers re-written.
 * Currently we only consider numbered treasures in the schema to be real treasures. Some items, like the emoticon bundle, acts like a treasure, but is not grouped with the others, so I'm not going to designate it as one unless Valve does. - Lemoncake  (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Dota 2 Asia Champion Ships 2015
Hi :P Nice to meet you :3 You need any help with DAC? I can do the qualifies if you want. I have the compendium and necessary information for Coverage and stuff, I think. PokerKid (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh Also the Rave Team page is missing :P PokerKid (talk) 08:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Move
Please move these pages to get clear with new added ticket: --Dark2Eagle (talk) 00:30, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Liga Dotera Venezolana → Liga Dotera Venezolana (Season 3)
 * File:Cosmetic icon Liga Dotera Venezolana.png → File:Cosmetic icon Liga Dotera Venezolana (Season 3).png
 * Forget this: Liga Dotera Venezolana/ru --Dark2Eagle (talk) 15:25, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Move this one too: Maybe i can get rights to move some pages, cuz sometimes it is so annoying --Dark2Eagle (talk) 19:54, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Cosmetic icon The Summit 2.png → File:Cosmetic icon The Summit 2 Bundle.png
 * The Summit 2/ru → The Summit 2 Bundle/ru


 * Only admins can move pages, and I'm not sure we're looking for new admins. Either way, you'd have to ask User:RJackson. Lemoncake  (talk) 19:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * i dont know what is dat wiki, but as i worked with wikipedias (smalls too) i saw some groups (users) who can move pages --Dark2Eagle (talk) 20:04, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I know, but Dota2Wiki has different user group rights. It is not up to me to change them. You will have to ask RJ. Lemoncake  (talk) 20:12, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Baltic Dota League Season2 → Baltic Dota League Season 2 (Ticket) (by this) --Dark2Eagle (talk) 13:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Add some more pictures: --Dark2Eagle (talk) 09:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC) --Dark2Eagle (talk) 13:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC) --Dark2Eagle (talk) 22:07, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * File:RaidCall Dota 2 League Season 2.png → File:Cosmetic icon RaidCall Dota 2 League Season 2.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon AtoD Showdown 3.png → File:Cosmetic icon AtoD 3.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon RaiCall Dota 2 League Season 3.png → File:Cosmetic icon RaidCall Dota 2 League Season 3.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon The Defense 4.png → File:Cosmetic icon The Defense Season 4.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon GEST - March 2013.png → File:Cosmetic icon GEST Dota 2 - Feb and March.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon GEST - April 2013.png → File:Cosmetic icon GEST Dota 2 - April and May.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon GEST - June 2013.png → File:Cosmetic icon GEST June and July 2013.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon G-League 2012 Season 2.png → File:Cosmetic icon G-League 2012 (Ticket).png
 * Asian Cyber Games Call for the Beauties → Asian Cyber Games: Call for the Beauties

Related February 24, 2015 Patch
Still need to move this: Asian Cyber Games Call for the Beauties → Asian Cyber Games: Call for the Beauties (reason)


 * American Dota 2 League Season 2 Ticket → American Dota League Season 2 Ticket (same sit)
 * File:Cosmetic icon AtoD 2 (Ticket).png → File:Cosmetic icon atoD 2 (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon GEST Dota 2 Tournament.png → File:Cosmetic icon GEST Dota 2 (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon G-1 Championship League.png → File:Cosmetic icon G-1 Championship League (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon G-1 Champions League Season 5.png → File:Cosmetic icon G-1 Champions League Season 5 (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon E2Max L33T Championship.png → File:Cosmetic icon E2Max L33T Championship (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon Curse Dota 2 Invitational.png → File:Cosmetic icon Curse Dota 2 Invitational (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon Dota 2 Super League.png → File:Cosmetic icon Dota 2 Super League (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon American Dota League.png → File:Cosmetic icon American Dota League (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon Bulgarian Amateur League Season One.png → File:Cosmetic icon Bulgarian Amateur League Season One (Ticket).png
 * File:Cosmetic icon Dota 2 Canada Cup.png → File:Cosmetic icon Dota 2 Canada Cup (Ticket).png

P.S. This list is going to grow. But I will work hard with this list and remove all redlinks, so dont worry about this) --Dark2Eagle (talk) 02:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Restore pls this: GamerSportPeru --Dark2Eagle (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Related: --Dark2Eagle (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * American Dota 2 League Season 2 → American Dota League Season 2

Hider
Is here some templates like that? --Dark2Eagle (talk) 13:23, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * If you ever see a good template on Wikipedia you can just copy and create them on Dota2Wiki. But for some reason I can't get this one to collapse here... The last person who tried deleted it, probably for that reason. Sorry, I'm the content guy, not the technical guy, for code stuff you should ask admin Kroocsciogsi.  Lemoncake  (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Curse Video feature?
Hey there! Curse is going to be releasing a video related to Dota2 and our video team was asking me if it could be featured here on Dota2 Wiki. I told them I'd need to chat with you, since videos have been a source of some minor trouble lately. It's going to be a stat and meta data analysis video on Hero Draft, StarLadder and The Summit. It would be ready tomorrow. CrsBenjamin (talk) 21:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Here is the video. I trust your judgement on the best placement! CrsBenjamin (talk) 21:56, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

emoticon gifs
I make them with transparent background but the ones with grey background were already made by Valve (found on update page / store page). I'll replace the grey bkg ones with transparent eventually &mdash; LingoSalad  (talk) 03:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Basic attacks
I would just like to have more consistency on this wiki. Check what I've done with the Mana article for example, based on how the one for Health looked like. I'm not saying the current articles regarding different aspects of basic attacks should be deleted but rather creating a new general article about the topic, linking to the already existing ones.--DeKoenisch (talk) 18:55, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The mechanics pages are basically a mishmash of stuff that's been written by various people over the years, and probably need to be overhauled at some point. But I think stuff like Attack Range, Attack Animation are separate mechanics and should remain separate. Maybe you could write a general purpose section on the Mechanics page, with links to the specific mechanics? - Lemoncake  (talk) 03:34, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I created a Basic attacks section and an article on Attack damage. I added two formulas for main attack damage and base damage and wanted to ask whether you could make them look more like what they're supposed to be. --DeKoenisch (talk) 23:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


 * It looks fine to me, good work. - Lemoncake  (talk) 04:31, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Attack range
I polished the article and added potential attack range values. However, that butchered the table. It would be amazing if you could fix that and add a way to sort it by both values.--DeKoenisch (talk) 12:16, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It already sorts. TBH the current table is just a stopgap measure, so I'm not too concerned with it. If I were writing the page from scratch I'd remake the entire thing with separate rows for each hero, an extra column for Melee/Ranged and another column at the end for the modifier that changes the range. That'll probably look better. You guys can give that a shot if you want. - Lemoncake  (talk) 13:05, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Bu3ny and I worked something out, how do you like it?-- -De-Könisch- 13:52, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks good! - Lemoncake  (talk) 13:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Signature template
Is there any way I can change the text's colour to red?-- -De-Könisch- 15:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Put this in your signature box thing:


 * - Lemoncake  (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks!-- -De-Könisch- 16:37, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Collapsible tables
Do you know/can you tell me how they work? Or more like, why don't they work here? They worked before there with ability wrappers and I couldnt get them to work with skillboxminimals :( Bu3ny (talk) 21:05, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You just forgot a pipe. - Lemoncake  (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks. Also I just noticed that they are never collabsible in the preview while editing Bu3ny (talk) 13:10, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Need opinion
Hi, do you have idea how I could name the new column for basic attack damage/armor/etc values I planned to add to the hero infobox? I already tried 0 and 1, but "level 0" or two "level 1" would be kinda confusing. Bu3ny (talk) 21:09, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Categorization
Some articles don't have any categories or have dead ended ones. Who from admins are related with that question? --Dark2Eagle (talk) 12:55, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah I gave up categorizing things a long time ago... there's just so many out of place. You can try categorize stuff if you want to though... - Lemoncake  (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Maybe we can move all equipment items to Category:Equipment by alphabetical order which would be main in Category:Equipment? --Dark2Eagle (talk) 20:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean, isn't Category:Equipment already in alphabetical order..? - Lemoncake  (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I mean that Category:Equipment now is overcrowded (over 7k articles, +not full list of subcategories) but we can make it as main category 4 all equipments: items, tickets, chests etc.; and '..by alphabetical order' just 4 articles and no subcategories --Dark2Eagle (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry I still don't quite get it, Category:Equipment already contains all equipments in alphabetical order. You want a category that's the same as Category:Equipment but without the subcategories? It won't be very different. I might be misunderstanding, maybe you should talk to Medok about this - Lemoncake  (talk) 22:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, I uploaded these files at the wrong location. I reuploaded them because I didn't find anyone around to help me move them. Please get rid of these:
 * File:Cosmetic item Emberbark.png
 * File:Cosmetic item The Stumpgrinder.png
 * File:Cosmetic item Covert Saboteur.png
 * File:Cosmetic item Wraps of the Winterbringer.png
 * File:Cosmetic item Garbs of the Frost Lord.png
 * File:Cosmetic icon Garbs of the Frost Lord.png

Thanks! JanMayen (talk) 02:00, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * re: ViCi. Time to move the page then :x --JanMayen (talk) 02:14, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Pennants
Should we change names of some pennants? cuz not all are equal as they name in the Dota 2 shop --Dark2Eagle (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I know, but Valve's naming scheme is a mess... it might be a waste of time to do it now. I was hoping they would standardize the names someday, then we'd change it all at the same time. - Lemoncake  (talk) 14:25, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

RE: Bracket templates
Here's that bracket template you asked about 2DE2STeamBracket. -Sigilbaram (talk) 22:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Two #119 chests
Now we have two #119 chests - 119 - Lockless Luckvase 2015 and 119 - Trove Carafe 2015, but still missing #104 chest --Dark2Eagle (talk) 10:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * We also missing #45 chest :D Medoke  10:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I know, but items_game.txt says both are #119... #104 was supposed to be for 118 - Imbued Sculptor's Pillar 2015 but they didn't use it. #45 was also never used - Lemoncake  (talk) 16:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Armor and damage types
Hey there! I stumbled across the Armor page, specifically this section: Armor

The "corrections" look very fishy, are full of typos and weren't touched once since their introduction. I doubt that magic damage is dependent on any kind of armor. Can I remove the corrections part and the magic row from the armor table? I tried to find sources on that matter, but none of them mentions magic-armor-relations.

84.151.209.252 12:23, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The tooltip already says Magic Damage is independent of armor, it's there for references sake, please do not remove. The corrections part can be edited or removed though. - Lemoncake  (talk) 12:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The armor types section is still based on DotA1 mainly.. I won't be surprised if no one really tested them in Dota2, since it would require checking many units and how they damage each other. He is right, magic resistance should not be listed as an armor type, not even as a reference. It works completely independent from armor and attack types in Dota2. In DotA1, when you give any unit armor type: hero, it will take 25% less magical damage. It's simply a part of that armor type and cannot be changed. Visage has a hidden passive ability which reduces his magic resistance by 20%, which results in him having 10% due to them stacking diminishingly. Same for Meepo, he has a hidden ability which gives him 15% magic res, so in DotA1, he has 36.625% magic res. Magic res is completely unrelated to armor in Dota2.
 * So as long as we don't get any infos from Valve how the attack types and armor types work in Dota2, the informations in that section will stay unreliable. It is possible to figure them all out with ingame testings but it will take hours. There are simply too many units. Bu3ny (talk) 13:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Set's customizations
I got from Compendium this set (coin exchanger), so how i can help improve "Customizations" section? --Dark2Eagle (talk) 00:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's lucky! If you could make .webm or .gif previews, that would be great. Lemoncake  (talk) 12:08, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * how 2 create it? xD --Dark2Eagle (talk) 14:53, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It's a little complicated... I capture in-game video with Fraps, then import frames into Photoshop, then crop and save as .gif. For .webm you need to crop/edit with a video software like Adobe Premiere. - Lemoncake  (talk) 15:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * mb we can cooperate somehow? cuz i just dont have enought will 2 do it) --Dark2Eagle (talk) 16:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, when Reborn comes out I'll use the preview system to make a lot of gifs - Lemoncake  (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Skeletown King
Why are we keeping the article for Skeleton King? He just got a re-skin and name change, it's not a different hero from Wraith King. You okay with getting rid of it? &mdash; LingoSalad (talk) 15:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As written on his page, this article exists solely for archival purposes. Each hero has update and balance changelog, and archieved abilities on them pages, Skeleton exists coz he fully remaked, and adding all info on Wraith King page will make it too fat and slow to load. Maybe you have better idea to show archieved Skeleton on our wiki? Medoke  16:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The only thing which changed was his model and icons. The hero itself remains the same. He was not remade.
 * Bio: His name didn't change. Hero icon and minimap icon can go into the gallery, like how it's done for other heroes who got new hero/minimap icons. The bio could be put in the same image
 * Abilities: WK still has the exact same abilities. The only difference is on SK page, they are simply outdated. If an ability gets remade, they are put into the Replaced abilty section anyway, which WK has already (old Q and active mortal strike). So none of ability section need archiving. Ability icons can be put together with hero icons etc into gallery
 * Recommended items: Besides new items getting added, it didn't change. Also, it doesn't work on SK's page anyway.
 * Tips: The tips section of both pages are identical. WK got the templates added over time, beside that, nothing changed. Also, I don't think sections related to strategy need archiving at all.
 * Trivia: WK's trivia section already has a line for SK, so the trivia section in SK can be discarded
 * Update history: WK has everything SK has in his update history.
 * Balance changelog: Same here, everything which is in SK's changelog already is in WK's changelog
 * Replaced abilities: Sections are 1:1 the same atm.
 * Gallery: The images can simply be put into WK's gallery
 * SK's voice lines: They already have an own page, so one link to them from WK's page should be enough
 * SK sounds: His sounds remained unchanged anyway
 * Bu3ny (talk) 16:45, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * So after SK will be "merged" into WK, we delete SK pages. Medoke  17:10, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * This is all possible, but is it really necessary? Unless it's interfering with something, I think it's just easier to keep the page and let it act like a natural archive. - Lemoncake  (talk) 00:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * But what exactly is it archiving? Besides the 6 icons and the bio, nothing there is worth archiving. It's essentially the same page existing twice, just that one uses different icons and is stuck in 2013. Also if you look at the other languages of those 2 pages, it became a whole mess. Keeping SK also causes him to still be listed in all the categories and some templates don't work for that page (e.g. recommended items). I think just redirecting it to WK would be simplier than to keep fixing things there. Everything which would need to be archived already is on WK's page. Bu3ny (talk) 01:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, go ahead and do it. - Lemoncake  (talk) 01:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Now we can delete Skeleton King completely? Medoke  11:18, 8 September 2015 (UTC)