Talk:Dota 2 Wiki/Archive 1

Elder Titan Missing
I was checking up on Abaddon and ET's gone from main page///

Sanity Request
Can someone type somewhere that DotA2 is an ARTS, not a MOBA? Pwetty please!

False virus reports
Something has triggered both google and google search and virus softwares to block this site. Its probably just someone just falsely reporting the site to be a dick but it needs to be looked into, get it unblocked — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.168.13.23 (talk) • (contribs)
 * This is being looked in to. For clarity, Google's malware detection is automated - one person reporting is not the cause of this. - RJ  18:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The flag was caused by a bad adserver. That server has been removed from our rotation and we are working with google to get the flags removed. There should be no danger to any of our visitors/editors at this point. -- Wynthyst [[Image:User Wynthyst sig icon.png ]] talk  19:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Heroes not fit into table correctly
Hey guys, the Dire Agility heroes are crossing over into the strength box above and the Intelligence heroes and crossing into the agility box above also. Can this be fixed? I am unable to edit the main page.

This has now been fixed as of 5:13PM (EST, GMT+10) on the 18th of April (Wednesday) 2012.

Any ideas for a main page theme?
I was thinking of something like this: Link

Opinions? Dragory 13:18, 26 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Looks nice, kinda the layout I was thinking would look good. Would be awesome if it used the black-red palette ChocolateWaffle 13:29, 26 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Heroes and Abilities are pretty much one in the same. It really doesn't make much sense to separate either of them. Gamemodes is kind of a loose topic, considering Dota has only had the one. If they're revealed, baybe it would make sense. Otherwise it looks good. -Lancey 00:25, 27 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Agree with Lancey, for now it should be only "Heroes" "Items" and "Mechanics". So far, Dota 2 only has 1 gamemode, and abilities and strategies should be dependant to each hero.ChocolateWaffle 06:18, 27 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Gamemodes should be scrapped, leading to the 4 sections - Heroes, Strategy (this will include modes), Items and Mechanics. God of Death


 * User:Lancey/Sandbox/Main_Page_Layout ??? -Lancey 13:02, 5 September 2011 (CDT)

Hero list on main page
Maybe move the hero list to it's own page and put links to hero, item and spell lists in that section of the main page. 000m 10:14, 28 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Hero page should also be made with a table, separating heroes by faction/attribute, as in here ChocolateWaffle 11:01, 28 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Table is done. It can be scaled to almost any size, so maybe we can do this? --Lancey 20:43, 30 August 2011 (CDT)
 * Your table looks beast! But if it goes in the main page, where does the item table go? ChocolateWaffle 21:54, 30 August 2011 (CDT)

Name Index

 * On the home page already has indexes: Heroes, Items, Mechanics ...
 * I propose to add the index: Creeps other coming soon.
 * --EvilDeadSanta 09:13, 22 October 2011 (CDT)
 * RJackson 09:44, 22 October 2011 (CDT)

Twitter link
I think the Twitter link should point to twitter.com/#!/dota2, not www.twitter.com/dota. --Kroocsiogsi 02:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks. - RJ 04:06, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Russian Moderator
Hello everything as I am alone "old man" on RussianDotaWiki, I would like to ask admins to give me the rights of the moderator, thx for attentions. Nero123 (talk | contribution) 14:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Generally, people who ask for moderator rights are not very moderate. -Lancey 16:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Currently all russian moderators is offline. They even on this wiki don't come. Nero123  (talk | contribution) 12:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Chat Abbrevations
I've started a page for chat abbrevations based off this post: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/pfyse/dota_2_abbreviations_also_n00b_quickstart/c3p1vmd

It might be nice to link to it from the main page.


 * --User:jones77 2012/8/2


 * It's here Glossary -.- Redefining history 08:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This is just fyi, but in my region:


 * 1) Prophet is never called NP, due to him being named only Prophet in DotA.
 * 2) CW is for "Centaur Warchief", Clockwerk is called Clock or CG (Clockwerk Goblin).
 * 3) SS is for Shadow Shaman, Storm Spirit is called Storm or ST.
 * 4) BM is always Beastmaster, whereas Broodmother is called Brood or BR.
 * 5) Doom Bringer is called Doom, never DB.
 * 6) Skeleton King is never called Leo.

I have absolutely no point to make here :P Redefining history 08:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

What happens with sortable table?
Why sortable table now simply table? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Auss1204 (talk) • (contribs)


 * I think it is fixed now. Thank you for reporting the problem. --Kroocsiogsi 22:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Banner Adjustment
I've made an adjusted version of the banner, mostly to customize the A but also some other subtle things, like a gradient and kerning adjustments. If an admin could approve/disapprove of this and update File:Wiki-banner.png accordingly I would appreciate it! --Pigbuster 18:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * lgtm. Note that the Chinese wiki has a variant of this logo. --Kroocsiogsi 04:42, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! I went ahead and made versions for traditional and simplified Chinese. --Pigbuster 05:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Done! Redefining history 05:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

The hero images...
ARE WAY TOO BIG.It was fine before... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.116.39.158 (talk) • (contribs)

Add /vg/ to the navigation bar on the left under communities.
/vg/ is one of the largest Dota 2 communities and deserves a link underneath the communities section on the left side of the website.

URL: boards[dot]4chan[dot]org/vg/ — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arkady00 (talk) • (contribs)
 * The communities section is for communities dedicated to, or with dedicated sections to, Dota 2. /vg/ is just a "general" board. - RJ 21:45, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Main Page language bar location
I moved it to the bottom so the main pages focus was on our content, rather than our features (if lang support could be called a feature), however I have had a few requests to move it back to the top. Where do you guys think it should be located, the top or bottom of the page? - RJ 21:45, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There's really no problem keeping it where it is, I'll find and paste relevant quotes here to save people the hassle:

14:40 <+Lagg> RJackson: Were those five translators, by any chance? 14:40 <+RJackson> Mebbeh 14:41 <+Lagg> I'm guessing yes, and putting that sort of navigation at the bottom of the page is a fairly common layout choice. The majority of traffic is going to be english, but non-english speakers will look at the bottom of a page for localizations. 14:43 <+Lagg> Having them low doesn't mean they're not important, just lower priority in the page flow. The first thing people think when they see something isn't going to be "oh man I have to get me some             finnish". -- Lagg 06:39, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It should be top, you dont use it often, guys. Move it back. Faraday  11:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the Language bar should move up. And put over the plate heroes. Russian-speaking and other users are always uncomfortable to scroll down the page to switch languages. Otherwise, the new home page quite normall. LEG 22:20, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that we should move up, over or under the menu. It will be much easier. Or leave the same way, but definitely not down. At the very least would be very uncomfortable to translate articles. Craftic 2:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ugly as it may be, I don't think we should bury language switching. --Kroocsiogsi 05:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Moved back to top, per this discussion's general opinion. - RJ 19:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Heroes not fit into table correctly (again)
Hey guys, the Dire Agility heroes are crossing over into the strength box above and the Intelligence heroes and crossing into the agility box above also. Can this be fixed? I am unable to edit the main page.
 * Someone was screwing around with the template. The infobox is actually stored in Template:HeroNav, anyone can edit it. Should be fixed now. -Baloroth 23:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Naga siren in main page
Shouldn't someone change the hero image at unreleased content from naga siren to another hero, because naga siren is released now? 83.82.125.27 20:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * +1 this. Someone changed it to Centaur Warcheif, but someone changed it back ... --Shocki 08:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Сlear your browser's cache. LEG 08:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, great. Thought it was wierd because at home , it was Centaur but at work it was Naga , Cheers mate --Shocki 08:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

put back the difficulty opinion line
The difficulty opinion line is very useful, especially when it is justifying why the character is harder or easier to play. Therefore, I suggest to undo the changes made by the user Lagg(http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/User:Lagg) on all character's descriptions.

Remove Diretide Banner
The game mode can technically no longer be played so the banner should be removed. --LolCakeLazors 05:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Gyrocopter Responces mistake.
Whilst I was watching Orange vs LGD.Int G-1 leauge game 3 i noticed at 28:57 into the game when mushi (OD) kills pajkatt (GYRO) that the 'so thats what you were warning me about'

Im confused since this line is labelled as being said when he kills DP and clearly it's said when Gyro is killed by obsidian destroyer, but although I can remove the DP kill line and correct that part, I'm unable to label it under when gyro dies section. Can someone go to responses for gyro and fix it please.

P.s. sorry for terrible butchering of the English language as I am very sleepy at the time of writing. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamajarzi (talk) • (contribs) 20:58, April 5, 2013
 * I'll fix it for you, but next time you need some help with something like that, ask first rather than outright removing something. -- Outworld Devourer icon.png  Seven Five Seven   02:01, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Obscene word on main page
I see obscene word on main page right under the Heroes section. Word stands for "dick" in Russian. I would remove it myself, since it's in some place that's editable for general users (I hope all mods and admins are mature enough not to do that), but I wasn't able to find it.
 * Now it's already fixed, thanks for fast reaction --Psyhister 05:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for locks on front-page visible templates
The templates and  are currently main-page visible, but are unlocked, making them particularly vulnerable to vandalism, as has been the case recently. The vandalism is manageable, but locking these templates, at least for non-registered users, would still help. --   Seven Five Seven   08:43, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Adding more pro player profiles
Can we get more links and profiles on more professional players? I came into look for profiles on The Alliance and QPAD Red Panda members. But I could only read about 6/10 of the players. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.101.151.60 (talk) • (contribs) 22:45, April 30, 2013‎
 * Well, why don't you add them? The wiki is a community collaboration, and everybody who contributes to the wiki is a volunteer. Be the change you want to see on the wiki. Take a few looks at other player pages, then try to make them yourself. -- Outworld Devourer icon.png  Seven Five Seven   23:08, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't we add hero difficulties to the hero pages?
For new players coming and wanting explanation of heroes, they may have trouble determining skill cap and I think it would useful. They used to be on the wiki, but were removed for whatever reason. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogchow33 (talk) • (contribs) 02:34, May 29, 2013‎
 * This has already been discussed. The conclusion was to not have them, as they're typically subjective and unreliable. -- Outworld Devourer icon.png  Seven Five Seven   10:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Parity changes
Can I start making parity changes, but blank them with   like we did last time?--67.171.226.69 01:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Addition of Dota 2 Wiki to VWN
We've been discussing it over at Team Fortress Wiki, and we feel now is a good time. Dota 2 is being formally released soon, so new editors are always welcome. The image we're using exists. Please let me know if you're happy for this to go ahead. Thanks. Smashman 21:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

/u/Regimardyl no longer doing reddit hero discussions
/u/Plasma_Ball1 seems to have taken over. Could someone change the link for "Daily Hero Discussions" to http://www.reddit.com/user/Plasma_Ball1/submitted/ ? -PancakeWarlord (talk) 01:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've updated it linking to both users so new users can see find previous threads easily, thanks. - RJ 11:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Link to dota2alttab should be removed
That site has been... changed.


 * That's strange. Thanks for letting us know, I've removed it. &mdash;LingoSalad (talk) 17:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Not allowing edits from 6.79 update
As seen, all I was doing was adding a note that Roshan no longer respawns at exactly 10 minutes, and yet the page said that this was harmful. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong? I left the original text the same and just added it in parenthesis.

Header/Banner images for patches, events and the main page
I suggest that you use official Valve DOTA2 promotion artwork and crop/combine it to proper sizes for future event banners or, at least, have somebody else create them. The ones on display for Three Spirits and Diretide use very unfitting fonts, fairly haphazard cutout work for the images and completely lack any background, dragging down the otherwise professional look of the wiki and adding more of an amateurish air to it. If you wish, I can provide alternate images more in tune with DOTA2's visual direction instead, so that they can be taken as reference for future works. -User:Sanastro


 * Congratulations, you have hurt Lemon's feelings ;_;


 * But really, the art IS official artwork and that's the size we've always used. There wasn't any new artwork for this year's Diretide so I threw something together in a few mins. We could use an official banner-making guy though. I was planning on making two banners for Diretide+Frostivus 2012 that we can use for archival purposes on the event pages. If you want, maybe you could put that together for us? They have to be that size though, I forget why :x ~ Lemoncream (talk) 18:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I have whipped up a Three Spirits banner in half an hour, trying to imitate the look of Valve's promotional art and fonts. If you wish, you can use it for the main page; at least I'd appreciate it! dota2wiki_3sp_banner.jpg Sanastro (talk) 19:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but we might have a sizing issue here.... I didn't notice before because the last banner had a black background. Do you think you could give your version black edges? ~ Lemoncream (talk) 20:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi guys. Where possible we do prefer to use official art for multiple reasons, most notable is of course the quality.  If we have to do custom art it should aim to meet the following:
 * 1600px wide
 * 350px tall (official artwork is 386, but we limit the height to 350).
 * All important text/graphics within a 960px centered bounding box (430px left/right of center).
 * The rest of the space can be used for some extra prettyness
 * Fade to a solid colour on edges - the same colour on both edges; and ideally fade elegantly - have the general artwork background be black and just have the artworks features subtley fade, rather than just a 0-alpha to black gradient.
 * Text styling should match official artwork - dark-gray to light-gray gradiant, small smooth bevel from top-left.
 * Not be too detailed / busy.
 * Official artwork tends to have a nicely detailed character on one side of the 960px bounding box (less important features extending beyond the box), and then the artwork gets less busy as it approaches the other side of the bounding box. The text is overlayed on the less-busy side of the bounding box.
 * Obviously it's not always practical to achieve all of this, nor is it always the best to meet each criteria. A lot of it will come down to the digression of whomever has time to put together a piece of artwork, but ultimately we should indeed strive for quality.
 * As for your proposed artwork, Sanastro - thanks for the attempt but I am opposed to using it for a variety of reasons. Perhaps you could revise the artwork, if you have time.  The reasons are as follows:
 * The art is very busy - you've got three very vibrant characters all over the artwork, as well as having the three gems, and then the text overlayed on top. I'd either have the gems or the heroes, but not both.
 * The text is too dark, and it's inner glow constrasts too much with the text itself. Try something like the official artwork - brighter text with a less intrusive inner shadow/bevel.
 * The edges do not fade, so on wider monitors there is just a harsh top where the graphic stops.
 * There is visible aliasing where the characters were cut out from their backgrounds.
 * Visible JPEG compression, aim for 80 / 90% compression, or save as PNG.
 * Now you could of course argue that the current artwork isn't of great quality either, and I'd agree, but I'm choosing it over yours primarily because yours doesn't fade at the edges. I think it's intent was simply to be a temporary piece of art until somebody had time to make a better piece, but it seems nobody has had time so far.
 * - RJ 20:37, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi RJ! Those are all super valid points, however I'm conflicted on the text problem; the style is very much like the 'official artwork' you suggest I look at. I have tried to closely imitate the official Three Spirits update text as seen here: http://www.dota2.com/threespirits While that's made in a 3D tool and thus more advanced, I feel that the look fits. But overall I'm also unhappy with my banner, since I kinda rushed it, so I'll go another attempt at a less cluttered banner now. Also, I didn't know about the required black edges at all! Sanastro (talk) 21:45, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Please delete this. 49.145.138.149 14:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

That's what I thought
Need to do what best. Lie down and watch sitcoms.

Newbie Onboard
Want to introduce myself to the forum and to also say that I am happy to be here and also excited to share with you all.

Delete Register / Log in
Maybe delete | welcome-link-register  = Register / Log in ? KennyTHPS (talk) 17:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Regarding recent changes to Template:Main_Page_layout
— Kroocsiogsi (talk) 18:08, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Please discuss changes first if you’re going to change the most prominent thing on the Wiki.
 * 2) Please do not experiment on Template:Main_Page_layout. Use preview and sandboxes until you know your edit is going to work.
 * 3) I think the new banner is unnecessary. It was deliberately removed over two years ago. All information in the banner can be found elsewhere on the main page in more appropriate locations. For example, it does not make sense to prominently link to the PlayDota forums. It does not make sense to put a register/login link on the banner, when such a link is found in a more sane place on the top Curse bar. It does not make sense to link to patches, which are found literally one inch below the link. Etc.


 * The banner isn't very pretty, but I do think there should be a link to our Steam group/IRC etc somewhere, and maybe another module for recruiting help... we really need it. The "News" and "New to Dota?" modules at the bottom are kinda haphazard and outdated, maybe we can replace them? I just don't have the expertise to do it :\ Lemoncake  (talk) 23:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a link to our IRC on the sidebar; it doesn’t need to be at the top of our main page. The Dota2Wiki Steam group is peripheral to the functioning of our wiki. It is not encyclopedic. You can add a link in the communities section of the sidebar or something like that. Adding a recruitment plea to the top of the main page is fine with me, but it should address recruitment specifically. --Kroocsiogsi (talk) 02:43, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

It would be good that Dota 2 Wiki, countains how Dota was created, by who, what happened with it, etc. Just a suggestion.

Update bulletin board to ask for help on hero articles.
Most heroes articles have lackluster item, gameplay, and tips sections. Either that, or they're lethargic as all get out. It would be nice if this issue was brought to more attention until most of the articles are of better quality. --LoneScoot (talk) 00:29, 19 April 2015 (UTC)